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To me it looks to me that not only are the commitee trying to close the forum to none members but are trying to limit the access to the members area,as well. over the years I have asked for access a number of times but have never been granted this privilege.
Hi,
Eric’s comments fully confirm to me something I have expressed to the Committee…..
That is that there are large number of MEMBERS visiting the website who are not being recognized as members, and instead classed as ‘guests’, thus totally distorting the Club’s perception of website usage. These folk have never properly logged on, AND, many like Eric are unable to access the Members’ Area either.
Clearly this needs the most urgent attention.
Brian
Hi,
I can confirm this. When I was am member it was not possible for me to get access to the members area. I can´t remember why, maybe it was too complicated or I am to simple.
If there is a barrier to keep some people out – WHY? – this barrier should be made in a way which allows easy access for members. If it is complicated it cannot be of much interest either because a small number of people will usually not produce interesting things over a long period.
Kind regards
Wilfried
Brian,
You are absolutly right. When I visit the forum I do not logon so I guess on my visits I am listed as a guest.
Another issue is if you logon using your own username and password there is restricted access to the members area.
To gain full access the common to all password is needed. At least that is my xperience. ❗
Hi
If you check the box when you first login
Log me on automatically each visit
you will always be recognized if you use the same computer
A good way to tell is try to reply or post , it will not let you if you are a guest.
Then if you are satisfied you are logged on, and you still can’t access certain areas
look at your permissions > goto profile by clicking on your name but do not logout and see if you,ve been put in registered users group or club members group
phew 💡
Kind Regards Jonathan
Hi
That is correct, BUT people tell me that it doesn’t work for them, and after a few attempts they give up trying ! I am no computer geek but suspect that the problem is caused by huge amounts of spam affecting the system. Urgent attention needed…….
Brian
Mmm, I have never experienced any difficulty in accessing the forum on my Mac, PC, iPad and iPhone.
But to be honest, I hardly ever visit the members section as most of the interesting discussions find place in the general secion of the board.
Cheers,
Erik
Jonathan,
Thank you for the info. Even if I wished to follow your advice the security software on my computer would not permit an automatic logon. Very high on the danger list for secure computers.
rjv
@BRIAN MARSHALL wrote:
Hi
That is correct, BUT people tell me that it doesn’t work for them, and after a few attempts they give up trying ! I am no computer geek but suspect that the problem is caused by huge amounts of spam affecting the system. Urgent attention needed…….
Brian
I suspect they’ve inadvertently logged out or they’ve not been assigned to that user group. I’ve not noticed any forum spam However this may have been filtered by the administrator, it usually takes the form of posts to adverts or links to other sites eg porn etc
Jonathan
( I hope your not suggesting I ‘m a geek, Brian 😆 )
Hi, just thought i’d respond to a couple of the perceptions here to help maintain the record straight…
Logging on – this forum has always been readable by any user without the need to log on (or even have a registered user account) – this goes way back to 2002 when the original forum software was quite primitive and did not support individual user accounts. Even as webmaster I rarely log on with my username just to check the forum and i suspect many other users do the same as me – usually the only time I log on is when I want to post of view the Forum Members’ Area. This would mean that my presence on the forum is usually shown as a ‘guest’.
‘Guests’ – these are not just human, at any one time the open areas of the forum are being automatically trawled by internet search engines (which regularly update their indexing to ensure their own users get the most up to date search results). These automatic trawls also appear as ‘guests’ in the ‘who is online’ section at the bottom of the forum home page.
Access to the Members Area – this has never been intentionally rationed in any way. However, for me to grant access requires users to email me to confirm they are a Club Member (by forwarding their current Membership Number) and to tell me their registered forum name (so I can find them amongst the list of registered forum users). Usually this process is straight forward but user error does happen from time to time, both on my own part (where i lose these emails in my automatic and manual spam filtering) or by complications with forwarding the complete set of details above. I have to admit that i will sometimes take up to two weeks to process these requests but have on occasion taken even longer, i’m very sorry if some Users have not had their accounts activated or upgraded in a timely way (and so please keep reminding me via email if the account setting aren’t changed as required).
Inactive users – until recently this forum had over 10,000 inactive users which i have slowly been cleaning up. This is some of the less interesting work that I have to do to maintain the forum. Again the reason we have so many inactive accounts is down to automated processes registering on the forum – it’s just one of the features of the internet.
Hopefully that info is of interest in the current debate.
On a personal note as webmaster I have to remain neutral on many matters (including the current debate) where my role is to implement the requirements of the Club, so hopefully you won’t mind if limit my input to the functional aspects only. However, I do like ideas and feedback from anyone and which, time and practicalities permitting, I will try and incorporate to help improve both the forum and the website.
Best Regards to all,
@Erik wrote:
But to be honest, I hardly ever visit the members section as most of the interesting discussions find place in the general secion of the board.
I think that is exactly the problem. Whilst we want to encourage new members and promote the club, the actual resources should be mainly for members who contribute to the clubs upkeep. People are simply posting in the wrong place and the only way to get them to do it correctly is to make it members only. The open part of the forum should be for general enquiries and advice to non-members, but the advice should also activley enourage them to join us.
Lee
@LeeBarber wrote:
People are simply posting in the wrong place and the only way to get them to do it correctly is to make it members only. The open part of the forum should be for general enquiries and advice to non-members, but the advice should also activley enourage them to join us. Lee
hmmm … people have to post where the committee likes it. People who posts in the wrong place are probably the wrong people …
Why do you believe you will get those wrong posters to join the club? My english is not very good but to “make” a member sounds strange to me, maybe I am wrong.
Kind regards
Wilfried