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Thanks Brian, you are correct in thinking it would be out of my price range,after I retierd as a motor mechanic I retraind as a universal miling machine operator and also learned how to use a lathe, so I do know the time and effort Eddie puts into making theses things.its just the fact when you are nearly 80 you have not got the extra spare money to spend on small items when you need bigger items.that are going to cost a lot more. Has any one got the Yowl with this article in, unfortunately when I was diagnosed as having cancer some years ago I got Kevin to clear all of my motoring stuff out,of course that included all my back copies of the Yowl. all I have got now only go back to 2004. thanks Eric