Hi, I am a relatively new member looking at purchasing my first Scott, a 1929 3 speed 596cc model.
It’s engine no is FY10096, does this make it a 1927 Flying Squirrel ? Jeff Clew’s book, “The Yowling Two-stroke” suggests that 10096 was the last but one 1927 engine number. It’s frame no 4178/m – is this consistent with the engine number ? I think I have read somewhere that little is known of frame numbers – is this true? Is it likely a 1929 registered Scott would have a 1927 engine, or is it more likely, the engine has simply been replaced at some time. Regards Steve ❓
Your bike has probably had the engine replaced at some stage like 99.9% of Scott’s have. These engines need to be built properly and if they are not they will self destruct very quickly as was often the case when thrashed in use. There are only around ten left with matching numbers but there are oddities such as the crankcase currently fitted to my ’27 flyer; its a 27/28 crankcase but the number indicates 1939 manufacture!
The engine you have is not far off number wise to my 27’s long lost (or blown up) original while your frame number is perhaps a little high for 1929 given that my other project bike is in the 3***m series (reg’d for the road May 1930) but there was no order to the frame numbers as bikes were despatched by their engine number unlike any other company!
Not being matching numbers does not make it any less usable so get out there and smoke the four-wheeled tin box drivers out!
Both my 1929 bikes have frame numbers in the 2xxx-m series so one in the 4xxx would be later I would suggest. As for engine-frame matching from works records my 2 TT Reps both still have their orginal engines and frames, quite a rarity perhaps!
Richard and James,
thank you for taking time to answer my post. I am going to view the bike next week.
Its at Cotswold Classics ( https://www.cotswold-classics.co.uk/viewitem.php?currency=gbp&list=stock&id=2013 ) .
What do you think ? Looks well used, but hey she’s over 80 years old!
Its also a bit more expensive than I would like – but prices seem to be quite strong these days.
I have been chasing a late 20’s/ 30’s machine for a while – but the good ones always seem to be gone by the time I see the advert.
I see that you are after a machine that another member has already asked me about. If you are new to Scotts you could end up being disappointed with your purchase as it is VERY non-standard. For instance the tank, front wheel, mudguards, stays, handlebars, levers, etc., etc.,are all wrong for the year, and the engine is earlier than 1929, being a straight-back crankcase job from 1927 or 1928. The exhaust system is also all wrong, and much later than the 1929 dating. It should have a transverse front “coffeepot” expansion chamber, with a pipe back to a Howarth silencer. The plastic pipes are a minor detail, but all in all it is very expensive for what it is.
The big problem is of course the lack of Scotts for sale, especially bikes that are not “bitsas”. Don’t rush headlong into buying a bike. It would be much better to bide your time and find something nicer at that kind of money.
Good luck with your quest!
My advice for what it’s worth, as Brian suggests, don’t rush in, be patient and eventually the right bike will come along at the right price. Good luck in your search.
OK, it’s very non-original and that tank is borderline ugly, it should have the slim tank which though short on capacity is far better looking.
There is something about this bike that screams ‘walk away’ and that is the ‘1929 registered’ which warns me that it has had it’s registration number pinched and an age related put in it’s place.
Beware registration marks;
EL Void numbers 1000-1500 used for pre-1930 vehicles 1974
DS 6574 upwards
SL 9737 upwards
BS 8000 upwards
SV 4001 upwards
BF all of them! Unissued series, handful issued 1903 then cancelled.
If you are buying a bike make sure that the reg number is original and that the old RF60/VE60 logbook (the folding cardboard ones) is with it, this is your proof it is authentic and less likely to be built of of whatever was laying around at the time.
ALL of my bikes have their original numbers or I would not have bought them and three have their original logbooks. The history aspect is something to consider when buying any old vehicle making it more desireable the more history there is.