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don’t know if anyone has seen this on eBay. auction number is 4622440195 . this may set a new record for Scotts money wise. (it was my old Brough SS100 that made the big money last year but it was no longer mine by that time). How about some discussion on this item.
BTW I still have about a dozen rear mudguards patterned after an original that came of my 1928 3 speed, with all the indents in the front in place. $80.00 including surface shipping over the Pond. Will accept useful trades for my Scott menagerie also.[/b]
Well, reliable or not, the bike sure looks superb. It looks like all modifications are carried out very neat.
But looks have never won a race…
And $ 17.100 with “reserve not yet met”….. a lot of money!
I deleted my previous posting about this bike, that I had seen some years ago in California at an early stage in its construction. It was too negative and without recent knowledge of how it was finished off, was unfair and I offer my unreserved apologies for this
My comments about the potential extra loadings on both engine and transmission however, are, I think reasonable.
Please understand that this project has been far more radical than my own modest efforts to increase the efficiency of a Scott engine by optimising normally aspirated breathing only. As I experimented over many years, then the failures and limitations brought about by higher loadings emerged. It was necessary to make a number of alterations to enhance the engine and gearbox to give it strength to match the increased duty. Even last year we broke a layshaft in the gearbox that had itself been specially made previously.
We should be fair and pay full respects to the determined person who constructed this bike and not unreasonably impede his chances of a good sale. On the other hand, I think any prospective purchaser should be objective in appraising such a prospect
If a person was interested to buy this machine with the aim of using its full implied potential, then I suggest they buy with the full acceptance that the next stage after building any special, is the development phase, which is of unknown extent. The photos show a machine that does not bear visible evidence of being run, see chains, sprockets, tyres etc. In this case it would be important to know to what extent it had been tested on a dyno or on a track already and the results that would indicate power output and reasonable commensurate future durability.
As regards the man who must have spent a considerable proportion of his lifetime and energy in conceiving and constructing this bike, then I offer my respect for his dedication and achievement.
As regards the price, it would have cost much more than the price mentioned at commercial rates
Hmm $20000 tonight.
It is interesting what the romance of an interesting past brings to the financial value of a machine. or anything in fact. I guess once you get into this kind of figure its not about the bike as a rideable machine as much as it is about having something you can tell the story about. In fact i find this fascinating as whether it is or isnt what it is described to be really at this point is almost irrelevent, it is what the overidding consensus proclaims it to be that is important, or even just the constant repetition of the existance of the possibility
… weapons of mass destruction .. anybody.
It just depends how many people you can get to tell the same story.
According to the records of the club registrar, John Underhill, the Frame of this machine was registered to a Standard Flyer with Engine no DPY 4083 in April 1935. The No plate was BND 390. Later the engine became DPY 4446 and i think it is at this point that the machine enters the States.
Also , I am told by John, who is as near to a walking encyclopedia of Scotts as is possible, that there were no Scotts entered in the 1936 TT. There was one in 1935 and one in 1937. He also says that there were no Supercharged Scotts ever ridden in a TT, although there was at least one made, but not by the Factory .
This is an interesting Bike without a doubt, and the owner has put countless hours into its creation. Anybody who buys it at this price is not taking food out of their childrens mouths…So Does the absolute clarity of its untainted history make that much difference, and then where do you draw the line?
It certainly gives those of us with the luxury of the kinds of lives necessary to sustain these interests,
something to talk about.
Obviously the person who did all the work on this machine is not the same person who wrote the description, I particularly licked the reference to the owner being a prisoner of war! really tugged at ones heart strings don`t you think, made it sound so real, what puzzles me though is if all these special parts were missing when this bike was found, how did the new owner know the machine ever had them in the first place? Also the fact that the bike has a Birmingham engine and Rocket Gold star front hub doesn`t help the history either, obviously the fictitious TT rider must have had his right leg severely injured as the foot change gearbox has been replaced by a hand change unit. What really pleases me though is that there are people out there willing to bid this mutch money for a scott bitsa, we can all retire early. Good Scotting, ALAN NOAKES.
With the availability of works records, the days are gone when the number of “genuine Sprint Specials” and “TT Bikes” can be added to without fear of discovery.
The bike is traceable through at least five previous owners. When one talks to any of these owners and tells them of the historic treasure that slipped through their hands, the first reaction is to have a good laugh.
Later, however, you consider the thought of someone creating this story to hike the price you realise that however honest the intention of the engineering, that this deception brings shame on the seller.
I just hope that anyone that thinks about buying this will check with the SOC first. The seller is the same person I met in Santa Barbara in 1995 when he explained his goal to put a blower in this flyer. He got the bike from Clive Waye who took me to see it. No mention of Works TT bike then!