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Dear all,
Has anyone got a picture of the handlebar/headlamp area of a post-war Shipley Flyer with magdyno? I don’t need a wiring diagram as it will be pretty much the same as other bikes of that era but I could do with knowing what the switch gear looked like. Most pictures etc out there are of the 1949 bike with coil ignition so would have a different Lucas switch. I’ve sorted out my head-races and the paint is now drying on the yokes so I will be able to start putting the front end of the bike back together soon. I was hoping to take the opportunity to tidy the electrics up a bit. The purple crimp connections are beyond horrifying and I had to cut quite a few wires to get the headlamp off due to lack of proper bullets. I also have two different lucas switches in the headlamp! One is broken has been disconnected and both are reproductions of 50/60’s items. The bike is quite non-standard but if I can get it looking a bit more period then that has to be good!!
Thanks,
Keith
Hello,
Have you studied the nearside & offside photos I took at Abbotsholme August 2012 of all the machines on display – see topic “SOC ANNUAL GATHERING MACHINES 2012 on YOUTUBE” on the SOC General Forum of 26 Aug 2012.
Or the previous year “SOC ANNUAL GATHERING 2011 – SLIDE SHOW OF SCOTTS ON YOUTUBE” on the SOC General forum of 10 Sept 2011.
Hope this helps,
David.
Hello,
If you could PM me an email address I can send you copy of an original works drawing of the top of the machine showing the layout of all the controls & when enlarged should give you a good idea of the correct switch (It’s actually on the very back of the headlamp). I’m sorry but I don’t know how to post images on the forum.
Roy.F
Thanks guys! Roy, you have a pm.
I’ve just watched through both Youtube clips. What an excellent record of the event and what a lot of shiny Scotts!! I couldn’t see the answer to what I need on first viewing but will try again when I have more time. Hopefully , I can make the gathering next year so my bike can be featured too 😛
Keith
I now have a line drawing sent by Roy of the 1948 model which shows a low mounted light switch with ammeter directly above. I cannot see enough detail in the Youtube pictures but I do have a picture in Jeff Clews book of his 1947 model (girder forks unlike my Oleomatics) but which appears to have a similar layout. Thus, it seems I need a Lucas ‘panel’ style headlamp like one of these;
Does anyone disagree? If not, it will have to go on my birthday list 😀
Keith
With an excellent bit of timing someone has listed a 1947 Scott on ebay! Its the same spec as mine and with lots of high definition photos.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281045740562?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
The headlamp and switch assembly certainly looks like a Lucas SSU700.
Keith
Apart from the ball-ended levers, and that odd diamond on top of the tank, it looks very much as it left the factory. Period photos suggest that most bikes had black enamelled wheel rims and handlebars, but perhaps chrome items came through occasionally, so I wouldn’t criticise them. I think that the horn button/dipswitch is a “Clearhooters” product, rather than the original Lucas, but a better quality product, and again a minor detail.
Brian
My ’48 had chrome rims from new but of course it’ isn’t a ’47. Looking at the ebay pictures, there are a few other bits that don’t look quite right. The bends on the exhaust pipe at the Siamese look wrong, the mag chain guard is home made, the front engine shield is missing, and I think the mudguards should have a central rib + the rear stays seem a little odd. There is also what looks like a shutter to swing over the carb bellmouth. Mind you, Scotts being what they are, who knows exactly what came out of the factory!
Hanging from a hook in my workshop I have an item from that late 1940’s era that you almost never see these days. It is an air filter on a little cast alloy inlet, curved so that the pan of the filter body sits vertically when installed. You can see them in some, but not all works photos. It is amazing how much quieter a Flyer is with one fitted, as it kills all that induction roar that you get above about half-throttle. I also have another fitting rarely seen on the post-war Flyers, which is a chain-oiler tank, in triangular shape, with rounded corners, that clamps onto the left-hand side centre chain-stay of the frame. A long time ago I saw an accessories leaflet that listed both items, but how many were sold later, or fitted from new, I don’t know, and finding out the latter would need further study of the dispatch books. (The tank is unlike the 1939 Clubman Special fitting, being smaller, and opposite handed ).
Brian
What’s odd about the diamond on top of the tank? My dad’s 48 flyer had this on from the factory.
The lamp on ebay certainly looks to be the exact same as ours so you should be good.
Cheers. I’ve ordered one from the VMCC shop. It was the cheapest source much to my surprise! I also treated myself to one of their very nice replica bicycle pumps. Its a minor point but the horrid plastic thing the bike came with really grated with me. I’ve already started tidying up the wiring. Proper black (soldered on) bullet connections look rather better than grotty pink crimped connectors 😛 One more coat of paint on the fork outers and I should be good to get the forks rebuilt at the weekend.
Keith