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Good day all,I have recently found a frame and forks for a 2 speeder along with a few other bits that belong to it,I was hoping to build it with what I already have, but it seems to be quite an early one,I was wondering if anybody can give me an idea of the age of it,the frame number is 455, many thanks.
A difficult question, without actually seeing the frame I would guess 1925. Regards
Thanks for the reply,it also has stirrup brake forks with it,is it possible to post photos on the site
The frame number of my 1914 veteran (still largely dismantled) is 432. So 455 could easily be late 1914/early 1915 which would account for the stirrup brakes.
Martin
Even the first Squirrels in 1922 had stirrup front brakes. They also had the open, spoked rear sprocket, with the single brake shoe operating onto the inside flange of the sprocket, just like a ‘Standard’ model.
Many thanks again for the info,I have never had much to do with 2 speeders only three speeders, pre war and vintage,like I said this turned up the other week and I could not believe it, it is in amazing condition what I have considering it may be over 100 years old,I assume that there are not too many veteran machines left around as I have not seen too many over the years.Hopefully I can build it and use it,regards Andy
Frame 455 could be either 1914 or 1919/20. Veteran Frame numbers are a bit of a mystery to me. Up to 1913 they seem to have had a 6 digit Frame No. In 1914 they started using a 3 digit number but stopped this sequence in 1916? Scotts then started frame numbers from about 100 in 1919 with Engine Nos in the 35nn range.
I would welcome more information about the early numbering system.
Scott seem to restart Frame Nos when a major change takes place. ie stirrup and oil in frame type to the drum rear brake Super type and again with the introduction of the short steering head. I imagine this is why Scotts always wanted customers to quote the engine number when ordering spares.
Ian – and everyone else,
To avoid putting what might be sensitive information (or at least information which might be misused) I will post what I know of the earlier numbers on the members’ area. Sorry for being opaque !
Many thanks for all your help.
Hello,
I know a bike with a number very close to the one you mentioned. Unfortunately I do not have access to this exclusive members only area. I have learned not to write sensitive information here ….
This is not the way a forum works properly! Sorry for you
Wilfried
Wilfried, lf you pm me I can help you. Non members are always welcome to ask me as Registrar about a Scott.