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12th August 2012 at 9:52 pm #3116

Deleted User
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Just whimsical query. 😀 😀 Are there any surviving 3 Cylinder Scotts?????? 😆 😆 Ted

13th August 2012 at 10:52 am #10174

dave bushell
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Yes. I think there are three, but don’t quote me on that! I do know that Sammy Miller has one in his Museum, he ran it at the Festival of a Thousand Bikes when it was held at Brands a few years back.
Dave

13th August 2012 at 11:51 am #10175

Martin Heckscher
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There’s another one in the National Motorcycle Museum which they kindly lent to us for the club stand at Stafford a couple of years ago.

13th August 2012 at 3:48 pm #10176

BRIAN MARSHALL
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When the Sammy Miller one was road-tested by Philip Tooth for one of the ‘Classic’ magazines a few years ago, they had a problem with the radiator boiling with little provocation . They should have consulted me because I have a set of the original operating instructions, typewritten not printed, and they specify that there should only be Glycol in the cooling system, like an aircraft, plus “an eggcupfull of soluble oil” !!! Only the Brits…….
I don’t know if the bike in the National Museum has got any pistons in it, because the ones originally in it, when sold by Nottingham Scott dealer George Richards, to Alan Pyatt, a local timber yard owner, are on the shelf in my workshop. I was given them by Vic Kemp, and he got them from George Spray, who was the mechanic for George Richards.
I’ve just tried to find those operating instructions, with no success, but if they come to light they will make an interesting article for Yowl, copy to Sammy Miller, copy to National Museum, plus ransom note for three Three pistons….
Brian

14th August 2012 at 9:00 pm #10177

BRIAN MARSHALL
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I have tracked down “The Classic Motor Cycle” road test of the Sammy Miller Museum Scott Three. It was in July 1991, Volume 18 No 7. I just can’t believe it was 20 years ago ! There is a copy on eBay at the moment. Item No 350582981623.
Brian

22nd August 2012 at 7:33 pm #10178

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😉 😉 I seem to remember that Bob Trickets did say to me once that he had a complete 3 cylinder engine availabe! I was VERY interested as a power unit for my vintage sidecar racing asperations! (as I still am by the way) Anyone have any gen? Ted 😀 😀

23rd August 2012 at 11:32 am #10179

BRIAN MARSHALL
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I’m not 100% sure, but THINK that the engine in question was not a bike engine, but one made by Bill Cull to try and interest a certain Mr. Lyons of Jaguar car fame, ( which was also Cull’s intention with the six cylinder engine), and so it had a bellhousing type crankcase, and big flywheel with a starter ring-gear on it. If that is the engine, it is now in Italy I believe. Might be worth asking the Holders though, and I could start you off with a set of three Three pistons…..
I should perhaps add that when I say “Cull’s intention”, it was of course at the behest of managing director Reginald Vinter, who moved in the same social circle as Lyons, meeting regularly at a Thames bank hostelry/knocking shop called “Skindles”, near Maidenhead. Money for these white elephant pipe-dreams was siphoned off from Admiralty funding for portable generators and power units for Bofors guns. Vinter was found out, and became a guest of his Majesty the King, going to prison for “malfeasance”, whatever that means…
Brian

20th September 2013 at 2:20 pm #10180

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A shame Mr Vinter was not a little more canny in his use of government funds – for instance Douglas’ WW2 generator engine spawned the power unit for the whole post-war T35 range!

NHH

20th September 2013 at 4:32 pm #10181

BRIAN MARSHALL
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Norman also made a nice little flat twin stationary generator/water pump engine, but I don’t think that it was ever used in any of their post-war bikes, and they just used the ubiquitous Villiers engines. What a shame !
Brian

20th September 2013 at 7:28 pm #10182

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The Norman Flat Twin,I had one way back in the sixties,If my memory serves me correctly it was a side valve,of about 250cc”s I fitted it into a 16 foot boat. It would”nt pull your hat off,Useless!

20th September 2013 at 7:45 pm #10183

BRIAN MARSHALL
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That was presumably the T300, but they also made the T600, which might have been able to pull the skin off a rice pudding !
Brian

21st September 2013 at 11:57 am #10184

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Different Norman – the stationary engine outfit was in Warwick and pretty much their only involvement with ‘bikes was the Kenilworth Scooter. However, it is instructive to compare the T300 with the Douglas FT350, despite the similar cubic capacity the latter is far more robust which ‘fortuitously’ enabled it to be turned into a motorcycle power unit with very little new design work.

Returning to Scott; the Cull patented scavenging system used on the Bofors gun engine had real possibilities for later development, being very similar to that employed in Walter Kaaden’s successful MZ racers.

NHH
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