HOME and how to join › Forum › Open Area › General Scott topics › BRUM SCOTT
While all of this talk about Brum Scott paint work goes on it reminds me that I need a Brum cylinder head has any one got a spare they don’t need thanks eric
Hi Eric
There were two shapes depending on the year. One was more rounded like most DPY engines. Others were more “squared off” as on DMS engines.
Dave
Thanks Dave its 57/58
Dave do you know when the squared type of head came in,only in Jeff Clews book it shows from prototype 2 with the squared head.or is it another of the Scott things, use what is on the shelf. eric
57/58 –would normally have the “squared off” head The prototypes and some early production bikes have the “rounded” heads,(ex Shipley stuff). Not easy to find good heads anymore, beware of cracked, porous, and over skimmed, jumble stuff. Stripped plug threads can be Helli-coiled, or tapped out 18mm,and fitted with a 18 to 14mm brass adapter. Or Roger Moss will make you a nice new one!
Hi Eric
My Brum was first registered beginning of July 1957. It came fitted with a DPY engine with rounded head.
Dave
Hi Eric, Have you tried David Holder?
Hi My old Brum (frame S 1100 also July 57) had a DPY engine with a “square” head, so the change from rounded to square is not “set in stone”. Some later bikes were also fitted with DPY engines with rounded heads. Probably “to hand” from the old Shipley stock. I don”t think any Holder built DMS engines were supplied with rounded heads originaly.
Please be aware that in 1934 there were a batch of detachable head Short Stroke Engines produced.
The heads are rounder type and as the block was the same height as a DPY, then the machining in the head was much more shallow.
Head style is rounded so without measuring, it is almost impossible to tell the difference
When Bob Trickett had spares on a sale or return basis from David, a number of these were amongst what he took
Both Eddie and I have had these supplied by customers as part of a kit to build an engine
One owner who elected to build the engine himself, finding it would not turn over, accused me of machining off about 3/16″ from the head he had supplied, demanded compensation and threatened legal action. He claimed that this head was on the bike when he bought it !
Luckily, a friend produced a picture of this owner with his bike when new clearly showing that this Brum Scott had originally had the slab sided head.
On the whole, it has been a great pleasure to meet and help so many good human beings who own Scotts.
By the law of averages, it follows that we must have the occasional disappointment. Roger
Interesting info Roger. It explains the reason for an engine I saw with TWO head gaskets fitted, .The owner said he was unable to kick start it ,and when bump started, it sounded very rough! As for problems with customers, remember, ” No good turn goes unpunished”!
Hi Geoff have sent you a pm eric