Front Stand

[Shipbuilder]

I have a 1939 Flying Squirrel that I bought 2years ago from another club member and I want to fit an alternative to the side stand now fitted. I am looking for something like the stand on the frame in this EBay item 263194611379.
Can anyone advise if this will fit and has anyone got a stand they are prepared to part with.

Regards. Derek

[chris wastell]

What sort of side stand do you have fitted at present? i’ve got a universal clamp on type fitted to the lower rear frame, it works a treat…if that’s any help?

[chris wastell]

Just found the Ebay listing. Yes your frame should have one of these stands fitted. Its only really for lifting the front wheel clear of the ground, no good to use on a regular basis, when not in use it is bolted in the up position.

[Shipbuilder]

@chris wastell wrote:

What sort of side stand do you have fitted at present? i’ve got a universal clamp on type fitted to the lower rear frame, it works a treat…if that’s any help?

I have a side stand fitted but I think this allows the bike to lean to far and if left there for long oil leaks (from the gearbox?) through the clutch. The bike is fitted with a McCandless swinging arm conversion and I normally keep it in a front wheel stand at home but this is not practical to use on runs and at club shows.

[Barrie]

I use a Indian Enfield stand ,if you have a problem with leakage have you got a seal in the clutch?

[Shipbuilder]

@Barrie wrote:

I use a Indian Enfield stand ,if you have a problem with leakage have you got a seal in the clutch?

Barrie,

I am interested to know about the “Enfield stand” you have, have you a photo and details of where you got it please>

Derek

[Barrie]

Have a look at Ebay ,look up Royal Enfield stand simples!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAND-NEW-ROYAL-ENFIELD-SIDE-STAND-BLACK-PLATED-WITH-SPRING-FOR-ALL-MODELS-AK-/182449272204?hash=item2a7ad2f58c:g:HNwAAOSwax5YvGEC

[chris wastell]

I didn’t think of it being a swing arm frame! I’ve got thixotropic grease in my gearbox which seems to stay in nicely, never any problems with corrosion as some have reported.

[Shipbuilder]

@Barrie wrote:

Have a look at Ebay ,look up Royal Enfield stand simples!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAND-NEW-ROYAL-ENFIELD-SIDE-STAND-BLACK-PLATED-WITH-SPRING-FOR-ALL-MODELS-AK-/182449272204?hash=item2a7ad2f58c:g:HNwAAOSwax5YvGEC

Thanks for that, I already have a side stand and am looking for some form of center stand.

[Barrie]

Have you got any mounting points on the bottom of the frame for a roll on type stand?
Most frames don’t have this as standard.
Dave Bushell has fitted a stand of this type to a machine, I believe the lugs/castings are different depending if the machine was ordered from the factory with a centre stand,
From the illustrations I have seen the centre stand appears to be an extra

[dave bushell]

Late Shipley and Brum Scotts were fitted with roll on centre stands. They did vary slightly in width. Some late Shipley Scotts had clamp on lugs and some were brazed. The lugs served 3 purposes, support for the rear brake crossover shaft, rear support for the gearbox tray and for the centre stand.
I made up lugs for two of my prewar Scotts as being in my eighties l found hauling the Scotts onto rear stands too much effort.
Dave

[Tman]

The days when the Scott goes out on a ride are the times when I mentally thank the designers of that roll-on stand. No other bike I have has such an easy to use stand, and when I see the other old boys heaving and whincing when on apparently middle-weight bikes it just makes me wonder how so many designs could be so hard to use.

[Shipbuilder]

@dave bushell wrote:

Late Shipley and Brum Scotts were fitted with roll on centre stands. They did vary slightly in width. Some late Shipley Scotts had clamp on lugs and some were brazed. The lugs served 3 purposes, support for the rear brake crossover shaft, rear support for the gearbox tray and for the centre stand.
I made up lugs for two of my prewar Scotts as being in my eighties l found hauling the Scotts onto rear stands too much effort.
Dave

Something like that would be perfect, unfortunately my bike doesn’t seem to have the necessary lugs on the frame, any chance of some pictures of your arrangement please?

Derek

[dave bushell]

Yes I’ll do that for you. Mine are clamp on as per some of the late Shipley Scotts and so are not a permanent alteration to the frame and can be reversed. Incidentally, the weight of the roll on stand is less than the standard rear stand. They are not too difficult to make if you have access to a pillar drill or a lathe. I used a pillar drill to make mine.
Dave

[Shipbuilder]

@dave bushell wrote:

Yes I’ll do that for you. Mine are clamp on as per some of the late Shipley Scotts and so are not a permanent alteration to the frame and can be reversed. Incidentally, the weight of the roll on stand is less than the standard rear stand. They are not too difficult to make if you have access to a pillar drill or a lathe. I used a pillar drill to make mine.
Dave

Thanks

Derek

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