Made in India

[BRIAN MARSHALL]

Hi.
Mention of a prop stand coming from India prompted me to have a trawl….If you Google ‘ENFIELDcounty-Ebay’ you will find a very interesting site based in India, that specialises in selling Royal Enfield Bullet spares, but there is also loads of other stuff, including tanks for such rare birds as early Ariel Square Fours, Velos, etc.. A lot of the repro’ Lucas stuff is generic for much of the British motorcycle industry, including Scott.
Prices are exceptionally reasonable, and postage and packing charges pretty fair too, so have a browse ! I was interested in Enfield rear hubs and sprockets in case they were Scott usable, but suspect that only the sets of six cush rubbers fit the bill. They cost £4-50 plus £3-50 postage.
Very interested to see that they do NEW repro’ girder forks for BSA M20/M21 and for Royal Enfield Model G and J for £249 plus p &p. I wonder how much they could do sets of Webbs for !!! And of course, what would the quality be like ?
Brian

[David J Waring]

If looking at other sites in India, note that the Royal Enfield Owners Club report problems of unfulfilled orders, paid up front, from Soni Motors, Dehli, who have links with “Lambrettawallah”, in their current club magazine.

[Steve Gibbon]

Gents, I posted the reply regarding the prop stand. It was a bit of a punt, I half expected not to ever get anything delivered – but it did and for the price it is not at all bad. I noticed that they could supply complete wheel and hub assemblies at very reasonable prices.
I used “ClassicEnfield” who’s ebay shop is called EnfieldCounty.
Regards
Steve G

[BRIAN MARSHALL]

Hi.
I have ordered a set of 6 cush rubbers for £8-00 inc. p&p. and now will wait and see what happens. As I used PayPal for the transaction, and it is only £8-00, I am happy to give it a try, and hope that the service is as good as their Ebay reviews.
Please reread my original posting as I have added a comment about NEW girder forks for £250 from the same source !!!!
Brian

[BRIAN MARSHALL]

Hi.
The set of six cush hub rubbers arrived safely from India this morning. They appear to be of good quality, and were well packaged. I would have no hesitation in ordering more stuff from this supplier again. Using PayPal and Ebay does of course give added peace of mind when ordering stuff from so far away, from ENFIELDcounty-Ebay.
They do have a UK based site too, but when I had a look through it the range of items was far less than the Indian site. When I looked at the very same set of 6 rear hub cush rubbers, it was £8-00 plus £2-20 postage and packing, making them £2-20 MORE than ordering from India !! I don’t understand the logic of that at all, and can only think that it is just “Rip-off Britain” again.
Brian

[Deleted User]

Oh thats a bit harsh…Rip off Britain. The importer will have had to pay import duty, storage, have premises etc. Hopefully they will also pay some UK tax on profits.

Recently I ordered a minor bit from Indonesia…cost me £4 Import dury AND £8 admin fee if I recollect. Took 2 weeks too arrive too.

And anyway the Curries here cost more than up the Kyber Pass.

[BRIAN MARSHALL]

Good Moaning,
Let’s not get political. I just think that if I was to order a set of cush rubbers from their UK base, they could order them for me to be sent from their Indian HQ, thus saving me the £2-20…
Of course there are much bigger price increases on larger items from the UK site compared to their Indian one. So, all their customers ordering from the UK site are paying thru’ the nose, something typical of modern Britain. Look at the prices of new cars here compared to the same model in much of Europe, and especially Japanese cars as they are, like us, R/H drive for their home market, and have to do a L/H drive version for the rest of Europe, but we still have to pay the highest prices in real terms. My wife says I am getting like Victor Meldrew…..
Brian

[BRIAN MARSHALL]

Hi
I’ve just had another look on the ENFIELDcounty-Ebay site, and find that they now have repro’ Norton girder forks at £300 plus £70 p&p, the type with side check-springs, as fitted to the 16H and various other models. Nothing to do with Scotts, but I thought this could be of interest to those of you with a mixed stable of vintage/classic bikes.
After looking at a group of 9 close photos (enlargeable), I am quite impressed, BUT this is a safety critical component and I would be a bit worried about the metallurgy/steel/iron casting quality. However, with genuine old forks now being around for up to 75 years, and having had an unknown number of bumps and crashes, repairs, unseen internal corrosion, etc., the new ones could well be a safer bet !!
Brian

[Deleted User]

In 2006, I ordered about 400 gudgeon pins and pads plus a quantity of roller plates from Maco Private in India. The quality and price was very good including duty in race bikes. Unfortunately when I wanted more recently, the company had grown and did not want to be bothered with our small order. On another subject, I am currently getting quotes on piston manufacture in India, as they will produce proper casting dies for die casting pistons at more comfortable prices than the UK and then die cast pistons part machined would be cheaper individually than investment casting. I am also expecting quotes from Czech Republic, Taiwan and China. Roger

[Anonymous]

I was talking to a customer last week who bought a set of the girder forks. They looked fine, a very good copy, but materials and machining accuracy wise were terrible meaning new spindles had to be made to get them assembled on the bike. Who knows what material spec they are made from.

I was in India 2 weeks ago visiting suppliers, they have truly world class facilities out there, and next door schoolkids bashing parts out of old cars into “new” motorcycle parts. You just need to know where and who you are buying from and what the raw materials are. Unfortunately you cannot usually tell material quality just by looking at a part, pistons included.

Cheers,
Richard

[Deleted User]

An old thread, but did anyone ever buy any girder forks from India? Seems to be lots of opinions on the ‘Net but very few actual purchasers..

[Deleted User]

I can see my bank from the bedroom window, but if I ‘phone them, they answer from 8000 miles away!

[Deleted User]

If you speak to Ray Daniels the excellent girder fork man he will tell you he will no longer fix the Indian forks and may tell a few tales. he has enough work for years so no skin of his back to loose a few order to India but buyer beware. I buy a few bit BUT nothing safety critical..

[Deleted User]

In a lot of used bits I acquired a new ‘Made in India’ Norton girder, when the previous owner tried to install it the part that attaches the spring to the top yoke snapped, leaving the tapered part in the to yoke and the spring and what was left of the attachment part flopping in the breeze. The casting was very porous and it appears those forks are only sold as an assembly with no spares support. But, i do remember when India was known as the home of the 1000 mile sprocket.

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