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I need a rear wheel adjusting washer/stud together with the butterfly shaped bit that fits over the rear frame wheel fork. ( I hope that makes sense) The Spares scheme do not have them. Armours and Vintage rebuilds likewise. Does anyone know of a supplier?
Your help will be appreciated. Roger Hulett
I also need one of the ‘butterfly shaped bits’ as Roger so graphicaly describes it. So if anyone has a secret stash please can I be 2nd in line
I am in much the same position though it’ll be a long time before I really need to worry — there are much bigger bits missing!
However if someone can let me borrow the bits or can supply dimensioned sketches I’ll make some up. Well, it’s a job that’s got to be done at some time or another!
While in scrounging mode I am also in the market for a chain-guard, a toolbox, two transfer port castings, a right hand crankcase door to Pilgrim pump casting, a speedo might be useful too. All for a DPY 600cc engined 1950 Squirrel.
The threaded adjusters are easy to make by welding or brazing a length of one quarter inchx26tpi studding or an old bolt, onto a suitable thick washer, but the pressing that goes over the rear fork end of the frame is quite another matter!! Something that will do the job is easy to make but it won’t look very elegant unless you want to spend hours and hours with files etc.. We ought to get a small press tool made up to do the job properly. If someone can do that, then make and sell a small batch of pressings to reward their efforts, perhaps the tool could then be passed on to the Spares Scheme for future batches or its existence published in Yowl so that everyone knows about it. I can lend a sample to anyone interested.
Is it possible that another manufacturer used the same rear wheel adjustment system as Scotts eg Panther,Royal Enfield ??? If so it is possible that another bike club’s spares scheme may have a supplier who would be interested in selling to our club. We have now 3 possible customers and I know that I would want more than one set RFH
David Elgar has contacted me and kindly offered to make a press tool to make the awkward bit that goes over the fork end at the rear of the frame, together with a small batch of pressings, so I will supply him with a sample ASAP. Watch this space!!!
On behalf of those who will benefit from this offer I would like to sincerely thank Brian and David Elgar.
Just a note to let those interested that I am making progress on the tooling that is needed to make these ‘orrible little “presses steel wing nut” shaped objects. (I think I’ll offer a free pair to the person that comes up with the best name!) As simple as it looks it really a rather nasty shape to make and the shed is b****y cold this time of year so be patient!
There are some new rear wheel adjusters that look just like the ones that would fit a Scott. Click short cut to see them.
You can put my name down for a set as well please. The person that made mine made a bit of a bodge and were the wrong size.
I suspect the link to the Bantam ones would prove to be a bit small for the rear axle of the Scott which also determines the gap in the slides of the frame which would presumably make the “Butterfly thingy” also too small. Hope that wasn’t too technical, I’ll write slower next time.
I can confirm that the ‘Bantam Butterfly’ will not quite do the job.
I would therefore ask that my name is added to the ever growing list. Don’t worry too much about the speed of your writing, it is only when you use the joined up variety that I struggle.
I think the suggestion of other bikes having the same fitting is probably correct and Panther & Velocette are probably the first 2 to look at. I intend going to the Birmingham Museum shortly and will have alook round. This should not preclude us or someone making a batch etc. Sometimes we have to lead and sometimes we have to seek other clubs for assistance. The Bantam suggestion was admirable but would appear to fall short on this occasion but thanks for trying.
Jeff, don’t worry I haven’t mastered joined up “real writing” although at school I was good at guzzinters. Three guzzinter six, twice I think. I always write slow cos I know you can’t read so fast. By the way I only remembered about the 10 bob I owe you after I sent this message. The old jokes, like the bikes are still the oldest. 😆
I have bought a pair of the wheel adjusters advertised as Bantam chain adjusters on e-bay and checked them with those on my 1929 2 speed sport. The fit is generally very good and the items so similar that I wonder whether the ones on my bike are correct in the first place. However, the washer is some 3mm oversize when compaired to the one on the bike. Otherwise all the components appear to fit, especially the “butterfly thing”. The ones on the bike were around another 2m larger than the hub shaft so that fitting the Bantam copies accentuates the misfit.
The suppliers are in Southwold in Suffolk (Mr and Mrs Baker 63 Malborough Road IP18 6BJ – email@example.com – no telephone number disclosed unfortunately)and offer two types of adjudsters – the ones that I have are for a plunger model as advertised. The note sent by the suppliers offered a smaller set for replacement but I have not taken them up as I am quite happy with the fit of my adjusters mated with their “butterfly things ” and new nuts. I hope this helps.
Put me down for a set of thingy-dingys as well!
‘Aint been a well lad, thought at one time I was going to join Spike “I told you I was ill” Milligan. With the slightly better weather the shed is warming up so I suppose I’ll have to be brave and make the effort.