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To be held at Abbottsholme if enough interest.
Hi Kevin
Have you analysed why there is a lack of support?
Is it location, time of year, cost, duration, age of membership etc?
In the early days of the gathering, we used to have up to a hundred plus machines and a great turnout, but of course the bulk of the membership was much younger then and the machines were used rather than cosseted!
Maybe we should survey the membership, but often people will say one thing and do another.
Dave
😀 😀 😀 How about a meeting in Scotland Kev.. ?? Say Aviemore. Alison and I really enjoyed the do at Abbotsholme but the reality is that the numbers just don’t make it viable.. So lets just “cut to the chase” as it were and organise a Scott Riders Rally in Scotland as the main event.. Lets see who turns up.. When Pam and I organised one in Moray many years ago we had a blast!. Great food Loads of laughs etc etc…,…….Regards Ted and Ali.. 😀 😀 😀
Speak to Eddie S. as the numbers tended to increase in the last few weeks, previously.
It is too early at present for members to plan their year no doubt. Regards..
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Sorry Kev haven’t read my Yowl properly what with Christmas. I am in for room and meals. As far as I know numbers have been disappointing in the past until quite near the date when there is a last minute rush.
Happy New Year to everyone, I am awaiting nice new pistons and some other work, hope to be ready for the new season. Wondering whether to take the plunge and get a lathe for my 70th…
We will try to come to Abbotsholme, with or without a bike. Transport to England from Norway with a bike is not as easy as before, since there is no ferry connection except from Amsterdam.
Cheers, Carl Henrik & Lilleba Stormer.
Well if I am spared…. I’ll be at Abbotsholme with campervan, Towavan trailer, two bikes, and some bits to sell. One of the bikes hasn’t been seen at a Scott Rally before. It is one of the 1928 ‘works’ TT bikes, but didn’t form one of the Isle-of-Man Senior TT entry. Instead it was sent to Holland, late in 1928, for the 1929 Dutch TT, but was returned to the works later in 1929, rebuilt, UK registered by the factory, then sold off as a “TT Replica” model. Still with original frame, engine and gearbox after 89 years…. Plus the reg UB4229 (Leeds).
Brian
Well count me in for Abbotsholme 2017, a great event & venue! For me, it’s difficult to see how you could improve
on the format previously set by Eddie & team. Those that haven’t attended the past Abbotsholme events have really
missed something special. Give it your support & help swell the numbers either for the weekend (includes fantastic
ride out into the beautiful Staffordshire Moorlands & Derbyshire Peaks on the Saturday) or just come for the Sunday Gathering.
It has everything, you won’t be disappointed. Use it or lose it, as the saying goes. It would be a tragedy to see this event die.
Mike Reynolds
I fully intended going to the gathering last year but a family death caused me to pull out.
As a new member I would love to come and see what it’s all about and will do my best to be there this year.
Derek
Things appear to be gaining momentum for Abbotsholme if you include six Scottish entrants.
It would advisable to include an entry form in the next Yowl, no doubt the committee would
wish to attend the event and the President ! Each Section will contribute entrants giving a base
figure of 40 to 50. What is the break even number for the accounts ? Regards
Dear All
I am sorry to have to make a contribution which might dampen people’s enthusiasm but I am afraid that this stream is running under a couple of fundamental misunderstandings of what was discussed at the Committee meeting on Saturday.
Firstly, it was not decided at the meeting that the Abbotsholme weekend would host this year’s Annual Gathering. The confusion is no doubt caused because in recent years the Annual Gathering has been held in conjunction with a weekend rider’s event, at either Abbotsholme or Shuttleworth. Notwithstanding this the Annual Gathering has always been a separate event and may be held as such. To emphasise the distinction, the first Abbotsholme weekend in 2007 was held in March and the Annual Gathering at Stanford Hall later in the same year.
Traditionally the Annual Gathering was held on the first Sunday in September and there was a great deal of criticism from the membership when the event was moved, both in respect of the new venue and the new date. The weekend fixed for the Abbotsholme event this year (11th to 13th of August) is earlier than usual and clashes with the height of the summer holidays period. Consequently various members of the Committee (me included) are unable to attend. I anticipate that a lot of members will also have other commitments at the time.
When Kevin reported on Saturday that there had been little uptake for the Abbotsholme weekend the Committee decided that a final date for entries should be set, being the end of this month. Whether or not the event proceeded would depend on the numbers committed to attend by 31 January 2017. I understand that the event will require at least 40 entrants in order to be viable and the Club cannot sanction the event being held unless there is such commitment. However, the Committee decided that the Annual Gathering will be held at a later date and at another venue to be decided having regard to the convenience of the membership. This means most likely that the Annual Gathering will be held at a location in the Midlands and sometime during September.
The second inaccuracy concerns Shuttleworth. The Committee has not decided that Shuttleworth will definitely not go ahead. The Shuttleworth event last year was organised by Richard Martin who is the Club’s only point of contact with Old Warden and who was not in attendance at the meeting on Saturday as he is not a member of the Committee. Without Richard’s input the Committee could not make a decision either way – fundamentally it was not certain that Richard was prepared to arrange another event at Shuttleworth. Accordingly the Committee decided to approach Richard before making any decision as to whether an event proceeds there, as well as the date and the form of any such event.
The Committee have agreed to meet again at the Club AGM in April , details of which will be published in Yowl and posted in the members’ area of this forum imminently. A final decision as to the Club’s events for 2017 will be made at that time. The minutes of the Committee meeting will also be published in the next edition of Yowl.
I feel that one final comment is appropriate. Issues of this sort should not be dealt with in the open forum. The subscription-paying members are the only people with legitimate interest in what events the Club holds and similarly they are the only people who have a right to a report of the workings of the Committee. If anyone would like to continue with this then I would be happy to answer any messages posted to the forum dealing with Club Matters and Announcements. Incidentally the professional advice received from the web-designer engaged to build the new Club website is that all forum traffic will be required to be carried out inside the members area. Perhaps that requirement at least will avoid further similar hitches.
Regards to everyone
Well, that clears everything up
😀 😀 Thanks for that Lewis..I understand family members are members aren’t we? Regards 😀 😀
Hello Ted
The constitution of the Club as set out in the Articles of Association permit a relative of a member of the Club to be admitted as a family member of the Club. There are two provisos (see Article 2) :
1. the family member must sign the membership application of the member concerned (as well as the member applying to join); and ,
2. the Management Committee must approve the appointment of the family member.
Subject to that no further membership fee is payable but if the member’s membership ceases for whatever reason under the Articles the family membership also ceases.
So, there is no automatic membership of all of a member’s relatives and that is because the identification of who are members and who are not would be nigh impossible if there was.
Kind Regards