Just as a point of interest does any one know how many single cylinder Scotts were made. and how many are left.
Do you mean just the 300cc single, or the MAJ model (Motor Assisted Junior) autocycle marketed as the Cyc-Auto ? (98cc).
Hi Brian just the 300cc
I have copies of works photos of the One-Lung Squirrel, and one of them shows no sign of an inlet stub or carburettor ! Perhaps it was just a mock-up for development purposes, but VERY odd…. If Scott had done the same as most other makers, and used the Villiers engine and gearbox in their lightweight models, they might have sold quite well, but the Scott engine wasn’t a patch on the Villiers, and the time was wrong anyway, due to the world-wide economic slump. By 1931 the factory was in voluntary liquidation, only saved by Vinter’s financial juggling and input from Albert Reynolds.
According to the VMCC Register of Machines (1992) there are 5 remaining – two 1929 models and 3 of the updated 1930 model.
One of the 1929 models is listed as having a 250 cc Villiers engine and an Albion gear box. I acquired this one from the widow of the owner a few years ago by which time the Scott engine had been reinstalled but not the gearbox. I have sourced a gearbox – cobbled together from a number of parts but I am having difficulty getting it to work.
The other 1929 model was, I think, in the motorcycle museum in Bakewell for some years ( we visited the museum during a very wet ride-out from the first Abbotsholme weekend ) and was at an Annual Gathering at Stamford Hall some years ago at the same time as mine. It was in restored condition and sold via Ebay about 2 years ago.
The National Motorcycle Museum has one of the 1930 models – so where are the other 2 ? I am sure Ian Parsons has details ?
Some good few years ago, when John Underhill was still with us, he gave me a lead on finding my 1928 works TT Scott, re-registered by the factory in 1930 as UB1923. It was down in a village near Winchester, close to where John’s daughter Jill lived. As well as the TT Scott there were two of the air-cooled single cylinder machines. As far as I can remember these were both bought by Bob Brougham, possibly on behalf of John Bentley, but I’m not 100% sure of that. Perhaps someone still in contact with Bob can confirm what became of those two “One Lungers”. I’ve also seen one in the hands of a member living in a village near Keighley, Yorkshire.
Thanks Brian and Lewis if there is only that many left it looks as if there is no hope of ever finding a rough one or even a frame. never mind just another dream dream
There are possibly 18 Lightweight Squirrels on the Register. As the present ownership details of these are somewhat outdated I cannot be certain that all still exist. 3 appear to be in Australia. Not all had the Scott engine as later ones were fitted with a Villiers engine. I do not think these Lightweights appear in the Scott Despatch records which are in Engine Number order as the Lightweights had engine numbers prefixed with X. Surviving frame numbers range from X16 to X254 and engines from X59 to X325. I doubt if over 300 were made. I suspect that there were gaps in numbers issued due to model changes. Perhaps someone would like to investigate further
Here in Australia that I know of is a 300cc industrial engine X212, a bitsa with engine No. X71, frame 226, a1929 model with engine No.X95, frame 100 and one I have seen ridden at an Australian Scott Rally about15 or 16 years ago but haven’t the numbers of.
Incidentally, the petrol/oil tank on the 300cc Lightweight Squirrel was bought from the Raleigh company here in Nottingham. A Raleigh model had gone out of production leaving a quantity of tanks ‘surplus to requirements’, and the Scott factory bought them. It just shows what dire straits they were in at the time.
If there are still about 18 out there as Ian says, the chances of finding one does does look a little better. there must be at one or two still lying about in sombodys shed going rusty or even incompleat.
Brian – I compared the single’s tank with those on the Raleigh stand at Stafford a few years ago with the help of one of the Raleigh club’s officials. Although the tanks are the same size the filler caps are in different places. Also Raleigh continued to use the same size tanks from 1929 until 1933 when it ceased production – i.e. after the Scott ceased production. Consequently, I suspect that the tanks used by Scott were supplied by Raleigh (or its supplier) but were not necessarily surplus/obsolete items. Interestingly, the Raleigh official had heard that Scott used surplus Raleigh tanks but came to the same conclusion as I did once we had made the comparison.
The ‘surplus Raleigh tanks’ story has appeared in print more than a few times, so is ‘written in stone’, like many other things we find to be incorrect when investigated. Another such tale concerned Scott ‘works’ TT gearboxes. They originally had undercut gears, and many a time it has been claimed that they were ‘all ball race’ bearings, including of course the High Gear on the mainshaft. That is simply wrong…. They had a small steel housing with a twin-row roller bearing brass sleeve, (1/8″ rollers, as used in the clutch), that also held a leather or maybe compressed felt oil seal. The housing was held onto the gearbox shell by four 2BA CS screws, the weak point of the idea.
Hi Lewis As of yet I have not been able to borrow a 300 tank to take pictures of or measure, so I was wondering if you could find time to take some measurements of your tank for me. what I need is the length, width, depth and the position of the filler necks. It looks as if I shall have to try and make one just from pictures out of books. Thank you Eric
Hi Eric, I have come across several photos of the single cylinder 300cc Lightweight Squirrel in ‘The Third Scott Selection’, the John Underhill/VMCC book.
On page 128 there are photos of the engine, with coffeepot expansion chamber attached, one of the engine components, and an engine drawing. On page 129 there is a photo of a bare frame, and a ‘mock-up’ of a machine oddly missing the carburettor mounting flange, and then on page 130 there is a November 1929 photo of a complete machine, (left-hand side), bearing a number plate ‘borrowed’ from one of the 1928 Senior TT works machines WW4461. Naughty !