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Hello all, and congratulations to Eric and family on his new addition. I have my 59 Brum running but am in need of a new head gasket and block coolant drain valve. Upon contacting Gil Swan, the spares secretary ,I was informed that he could not send parts to the USA due to liability issues. My being a Canadian seems irrelevant,must be a North American liability issue. Regardless, I was wondering if anyone knows of another supplier possibly in North America that could help me out.
Shakespeare had it right when he said” First thing ,we kill all the lawyers”.
Brian
Alberta, CANADA
Thanks Brian…. Cannot help you with the spares but Gill is a she …
Cheers,
Erik
Hi. If you find they have the items, I will buy and post on, but I will need to charge for my handling. Best I can do, but I feel uncomfortable standing by and seeing a fellow Scott owner in difficulties
Kind Regards
Roger Moss
ps i have a number of customers who are not SOC members and under SOC rules, they should not be sold spares by the Spares Scheme. Maybe they live very remotely or have lots of different makes of bikes, but as I am not governed by the rules of the SOC, I help fellow Scott owners wherever I can regardless.
Thanks Eric and Roger for the prompt reply. My apologies to Gill regarding gender confusion. I am not sure Roger if the SOC has the spares in question or not. I was just informed that there could be no shipping to USA (or Canada I assume). Scott motorbikes are very thin on the ground over here as you can imagine, spares and information even less so. If need be I suppose I can make up a gasket from locally sourced supplies and drill and tap for the drain valve,or simply solder it closed. Thanks again for the replies.
Brian
CANADA
Brian, likewise, you can e mail me and I can get them for you, and post them to Canada personally.
If I can help, feel free to ask.
A tutto gas
Paul
Hi Brian
Please confirm requirements to me by email to roger@mossengineering.co.uk and I will try to get you the items you require. I do have 600cc gaskets in stock but will investigate the water tap situation.
Kind Regards Roger
Hi Brian
As far as I am aware, the ’59 Bum Scotts were not fitted with drain taps on the block, they just had a bolt of the appropriate size fitted. The Birmingham Scott catalogue illustrates this. Actually, this is probably a safer option as it prevents unwanted interference from the inquisitive fingers of children!
Regards
Dave
Hi Brian,
Further to Dave’s message, I can confirm that a bolt was used instead of a coolant drain tap, at least it was like that on the 1958 Brum.
I have sent you an e-mail with a photo of my bike showing this.
Kind regards,
Carl
Thanks chaps for the info on the bolt in lieu of the drain tap. I had thought of doing that but wanted to keep it original if possible. Now I learn the bolt is in fact original. Would anyone know the thread type necessary ? Also are parts books available or an owner’s manual. My understanding is that there never was an owner’s manual even when purchased new. I find that quite odd. Weird even. Whatever the case many thanks once again for the input.
Brian
Hi Brian,
The 1958 and 1959 Scotts were made in a very small quantity, and I find it doubtful whether an owner’s manual or a proper parts list were made available. I may be wrong, in which case another Brum owner will surely correct me – we can only hope for such a miracle to happen!
The drain tap/bolt hole should be 7/16″ BSF, 18TPI. At least that seems to be the normal size. You should put a fibre or copper washer under the bolt head.
The bolt should not be too long! 1/2″ should be sufficient. A longer bolt will collect corrosion deposits at the tip and may be difficult to unscrew at a later stage. Coat the threads with grease or copper grease before you insert the bolt. Copper grease is great for avoiding thread stripping. You should also use it on spark plug threads – the threads in the aluminium head are easily damaged.
Kind regards,
Carl
Hi Brian
I can confirm that no owners manual was produced or supplied by Matt Holder of Aerco Jig and Tool, Birmingham for the Birmingham Scott.. The only publication was a catalogue showing the alternator equipped models and nothing for the earlier (up to 1957) dynamo equipped Brum Scotts. Useful technical information regarding Brum Scotts can be found in “Technicalities”
The last owners manual was produced, I think, in 1949/50 and the last spare parts list was pre-war.
Dave Bushell
SOC Librarian