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Hi Richard, when I restore detachable heads my inserts are made to exactly mirror the contour of an original Birmingham cylinder head that I have in my posession these are slightly more conical than a Shipley head but not much, and will bring a standard Scott engine back to it`s original compression ratio,obviously if an engine is bored oversize or has Silk pistons fitted this will also increase the compression ratio. Another point that concerns your particular engine is the fact that if you have Silk cranks fitted they are a slightly longer stroke at 72mm. compared to the 71.4mm of a Scott longstroke crank, this will lift the piston an extra .012″ into the combustion chamber and will also slightly increase the compression ratio, so a carefull check on piston to head clearances will be required. Alan Noakes. scottworkshop@hotmail.co.uk
I George and I helped each other when he started in business. My recollection is that the shaped head was suggested by George and that as our family had quite a substantial machine tool business, I agreed to have the patterns made on the basis that George would have some cast to include one for me. These had a rear profile to allow for the water feed to exit horizontally rather than vertically to conserve height. After many years, these patterns were returned to me and are in my stores. The early heads were made of something like LM3 not heat treated and I had problems as the skull sections flexed and cracked needing welding up. I decided to have a second set of patterns made and to have them produced in LM 25 TF to be more durable. You can recognize these heads by the fact that the rear area that is flat for the coolant connection of the Silk Scott, is radiused. The combustion chamber shape is very similar, but the patterns were made with perhaps more close attention to the accuracy of the profile. I have plotted the shape in X and Y axis of the two cast in profiles and they are within a few thou of being equal. I have a batch of ten heads in manufacture and great care is taken to ensure that both combustion chambers are on the same plane and that the final combustion face is at the correct height. The main idea was to have a head that allowed a more even burn and so the flame initiation is within a counterbore, rather in a similar fashion to the pre chamber of a Ricardo engine. The actual depth of the combustion chamber is about ten thou deeper than a conventional Scott head, but, of course, the cast in sections reduce the overall volume. I can only speak for the machining of my castings, so when considering a Silk Scott head, I have no idea to what horizon the fire face / combustion face was machined. I have always run on petrol in my racer apart from a brief try with dope years ago and at a very early stage discovered that it was folly to alter the transfer and exhaust ports. In fact George and his son Phil were here yesterday and we discussed this matter again. We agreed that the Day cycle deflector type engine will not rev much over 5000 rpm and produce power. If arranged properly, it will develop good torque from about 2000 to 4800 rpm and that any significant alteration to original port heights will dramatically reduce bottom end torque and whilst you may get it to rev a bit higher, then those revs will not have much torque, so you have lost the intrinsic advantage of the engine. My emphasis is to reduce any impediment to cylinder filling and leave the ports alone. You thus retain the character but enhance the torque. So if anyone has a problem with an engine with such a head, I do suggest that the height of the transfer and exhaust ports are measured first to see if they have been “modified” I have all the port heights on record if needed, just email me. I would also suggest that head volumes and compression ratios are a very deceptive preoccupation. It is the volume of gas that you can arrange to get into the head space after the exhaust has closed that is important and the Scott conventional inlet tract is unduly restricted, but then, in the 1920’s, to be fair, there was very little understanding of fluid dynamics. Kind Regards Roger
Can I just say thanks for running this thread in the ‘general topics’ area – as a non club member I can’t access the ‘technical and restoration’ zone but this sort of thing fascinates me.
More please!
NHH
Dear NNH everybody is welcome. The principle should be to hold out the hand of friendship to like minded people and help where we can. Perhaps then, if a person has a Scott they might consider joining the club. If you want more info, visit my old website below and that of my son Richard at https://www.racingoutoftime.co.uk With my friend Ted Parkin, I used to produce a private Scott newsletter which ran to about 50 editions with Scott technical info etc. These can be accessed at https://www.scotttechnicalities.com.au/ We have not put out a newsletter for almost a year, but have decided to do another for this Christmas. If you would like a copy just email me at roger@mossengineering.co.uk If you would just like a bit of low comedy, visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e9LOqaoMLI
Google Steve Platers interview with Roger Moss
Please remember that there are as many strongly held convictions on how Scotts should be cared for as there are Scott owners. So whatever Richard, Ted or I offer are just the opinions of three sincere private individuals, no more and no less. So whatever we might suggest can only at best be qualified by the rider “Well, it worked for us”! Kindest Regards my friend Roger Moss
Thanks Roger, the hand of friendship to non Scott (motorcycle) owners is very much appreciated. I recall dad telling me that you handled a pair of new-old stock pistons which he had taken up to you to have a block bored to suit, like holy relics!
NHH
I was down at jeff hearns last week he has got a squished head which is different to mine and alan noakes head, first there was no void on top where the plug hole is, also it took a long reach plug plus the compression was way to high he has had to fit a 30 thou spacer to lower the compression
Just finished Richards head, have fitted standard shape combustion chamber inserts to original Silk casting. Alan Noakes. scottworkshop@hotmail.co.uk
As alan says I have got my head back now I need long reach plugs has anyone any thoughts on which plug to use I have been using a soft one on the short reach L10 champlon I would have liked to use the recessed electrode type but as richard blackburn polnted out they would be to hard and make very difficult starting any thoughts anyone
Plugs, like oil, can be an emotive issue. I use non-projected NGK in the middle of the heat range, no resistor in plug or plug cap. The Green Spark Plug Man has lots of choice. Others will tell you that NGK plugs are the work of the devil and recommend something else.