Scott bike for sale in bits

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Thanks Geoff. Just got everything into my garage now from the house clearance. I think. Your right , I need someone to look over it all for me and at least I know what I have for sale. Maybe one weekend get local enthusiasts to call. Would pay for there fuel or make a donation to your club. Thanks Paul.

[Deleted User]

Hi Paul Where are you located? (Don”t be too exact,!) The county will do.

[Deleted User]

Winsford Cheshire Geoff.

[Deleted User]

Hi Paul, Thanks, To far for me ,as I am in south wales, but I do know there are a lot of SOC members in the Midlands area, so over to you chaps!

[Deleted User]

My understanding is that the double sided brake was exclusive to Matt Holder – in fact, legend has it that he was “negotiating” with Norton to do a deal whereby he would let them use his front brake design in exchange for them supplying Roadholder forks.

Incidentally, the Dowty fork conversion to springs was solely of Matt’s doing, and as far as I have been able to assertain, the only forks where the springs act in tension – so they are quite “un”conventional!

What’s your opinion Jeff??

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Stan

i have been ferreting on Hitchcocks web site and it appears that the Enfield twin brakes were 6″ diameter so the ones fitted to Scott were indeed Matt’s own. As far as the forks are concerned It’s a pity that Matt didn’t do a deal with Panther to use theirs along with their front wheel. Would have made life simpler for Brum owners

Charlie

[BRIAN MARSHALL]

Arthur Fogg’s TT Replica special was fitted with Panther forks and wheels, together with a rear swinging arm conversion. Almost unbelievably the work was done at the Panther works in Cleckheaton !!
Brian

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Brian

Presumably this was post 1956 when Panther went over to full width hubs and their own design forks ?

Charlie

[BRIAN MARSHALL]

Yes Charlie. To my eyes they looked too big and clumsy in the 1929 Scott frame, engine, etc., but whatever floats your boat….
Brian

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Hi all, Genuine, proper Dowty ” AIR/OIL hydrolic Forks were NOT fitted to Birmingham Scotts, (except for a few early proto types which were) They were fitted to Velocette, Panther, Scott, and other less well known makes. Brum” s look very similar but the legs totally different. Only the yolkes and top outer tubes are the same. As Stan notes Brum fork springs stretch, not compress as do all others makes I have seen. Dowty Air/oil forks CAN be converted to springs, and many were, but Brum forks are not converted Dowty air/oil forks. I dismantled, measured, and compared both types for an article for YOWL some years ago ,read for the full saga! Geoff.

[BRIAN MARSHALL]

An instant way of identifying the Dowty air-sprung/oil-damped forks is the inflating valve that sticks out of a cutaway in the left-hand side of the top yoke. Originally it was a Kilner valve, long obsolete, and a modern Schrader valve can be substituted.

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Panther had there own conversion to springs in the dowtys,I have drawings for all the parts and spec on the conversion,most of the conversions went out to Aus as the roads there were non existant in most places.

[Deleted User]

Hi Paul,

Re: “Birmingham” Scott.

Whilst Geoff Case is the recognised expert on Birmingham Scotts and suggests someone could have a look-see at your parts, as he says he’s down in South Wales which is a long way from you.

However, having been involved with the model since their inception in the 1950’s, if you need anyone to look at the parts as previously suggested, I’m not far from you in Penkridge, so would gladly have a ride over if it helps, or alternatively, you can email me direct for any detailed advice at:

sleevevalve@mail.com

Stan Thomas.

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Thankyou Stan. Would appreciate it . Just a long shot, would you be available to come over Saturday morning? Thanks Paul.

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Hi Paul,

I’m at the National Motorcycle Museum next week-end, and the following week-end I’m on a show-stand at the NEC Classic Car show over four days.

Mid week would be better for me now I’m retired.

Email me direct if you would, then we can make arrangements.

Regards,

Stan.

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